Question:
What are your thoughts on Chuck Norris, Ted Cruz, and other Conservatives thinking the US government will "invade" Texas?
2015-05-06 13:15:17 UTC
Are Texas Conservatives aware that Texas is part of the United States, and that the US government can conduct military exercises on Texas soil, and that it isn't an "invasion"?
34 answers:
Andy F
2015-05-07 14:14:18 UTC
I find it almost impossible to imagine how people like Chuck Norris and Ted Cruz think.



OTOH, Texas for about 10 years was in fact its own independent republic, and I can imagine how some very conservative or very paranoid Texans might still want it that way, and might have somewhat strange ideas about -- say -- Obama trying to establish a dictatorship across the US that would threaten Texas independence.



The truth is, the super-rich and the biggest multinational corporations, thanks to the "Citizens United" ruling and other recent Supreme Court decisions on campaign financing, have a virtual monopoly over control of our two major political parties.



Also, the Patriot Act and the "war on terror" that's occurred since the 9/11 attacks really have given the federal government sweeping new powers to spy on average citizens. In a real sense, most Americans -- inside & outside of Texas -- probably have lost some important freedoms that our ancestors enjoyed. Or at least, those of us who are white men have lost some freedoms. I think America was never all that "free" for nonwhites and women before the mid-1960s.



So the Texas independence fanatics aren't totally out of touch with reality, I think. But they are wrong in the details, wrong in their fantasies about Obama ordering a federal "invasion" of the Lone Star State.



Looks to me as if some Texans have just never accepted the results of the Civil War, which pretty much ended the possibility of "secession" in the US for all time.



-- democratic socialist
Brian
2015-05-07 02:40:39 UTC
The military conducts excercises on military bases all across the United States on an annual basis. The military has conducted extensive excercises in the arid Southwest for decades, although they have been confined to said military installations. Why is it, that the military now needs to conduct the same excercises on public and private land that cover multiple states; because they were told too.



The military does not act alone or on its own behalf. It does what it is told to do.



That being said, should there be a event or series of events that would threaten the national security of these United States of America and the general population were to find themselves in a sudden need to evacuate the Northern states before the onset of winter, it is reasonable to assume that the US Military would be involved; to oversee and protect the citizens as well as to protect the soverenity of these United States of America. More importantly, the Constitution.



This excercise is not about Martial Law - in my own opinion, if military commanders were told to participate in an excercise for Martial Law, they would remind the law makers that the US military does not police its own citizenry - it is about, training. That is what the military does; it trains.
2015-05-07 06:58:33 UTC
It was actually Greg Abbott who started this ball rolling, Cruz is just taking advantage and the opportunity to join in on the scare mongering in order to reinforce mistrust of the government and moreover hatred against President Obama!!!



The fact that military exercises have been held in Texas before, like in 2001 which was even bigger has escaped these a$$wipes, but any opportunity to scare people for political advantage is too good to miss for Abbott and Cruz!!!



Any rational thinking Texan should be insulted that these jokers think that they are dumb and stupid enough to fall for this complete baloney, but the reality is that this is all they really have to offer........Fear!!!



As for Norris, he just needs to stick to constantly dying his hair and get some help trying to decipher his 3rd rate action movie career from reality!!!
Yorrik
2015-05-08 03:15:09 UTC
All well and good, however, Texas has a quite different history to the one you seem to think it has. Most Texans do not see themselves as being part of the Union, indeed their history is that of siding with the South. Texas is totally clean in respect of slavery - it has never ever had it.



The Republic of Texas had an embassy here in London and was recognized as an independent country and not part of the USA in it's own right.

http://terry-uniqueplaces.blogspot.co.uk/2010/02/embassy-of-texas-in-london.html



This is what the Queen had to say in Texas back in c1991 don't think her opinion has changed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njb_wtURxek
Ian
2015-05-08 00:07:14 UTC
What's Chuck Norris worried for?



He grinds his coffee with his teeth and boils the water with his own rage.

He flosses with an electric fence and pulled out excalibur with his pinky.



The US government better be prepared to mess with Texas AND Chuck Norris
2015-05-07 20:42:07 UTC
I'm in agreement with them. The military has no right to violate the autonomy of Texas. It is the Lone Star state for a reason! Don't mess with Texas!!!!
2015-05-06 13:29:18 UTC
Cons are in non stop mode to embellish events to suit their agenda of hatred/objection. They live for these kind of possibilities. They aren't happy unless they are complaining about something. They need problems to complain about and actively seek other righties to stroke their ego w/ affirmations to their insecurities.

If one wants to know what the problems are ... ask a rightie. If one wants to seek what the solutions can be ... ask a lefty but be aware the righties will denounce the lefty solutions as well.

When was the last time they (cons) fixed anything? ... anyone?
2015-05-07 12:36:32 UTC
Conservatives tend to be overly cynical and angry and will latch onto any bit of news that paints them as the victim, even if they really know it is ridiculously far-fetched. They (want to) believe that all black people are on welfare and are criminals, that pro-choice means pro-abortion, that all Muslims are barbarians, that anyone with a Hispanic name is an illegal alien, etc. When you talk to a knee-jerk conservative about any type of social, economic, or political issue, be prepared to suspend reality and momentarily toss reason out the window.
2015-05-06 13:19:56 UTC
There's definitely an invasion going on in Texas, but it's coming from the federal government by proxy, I.E. Illegal Immigration.
Shawn Robin
2015-05-06 19:15:35 UTC
The American Civil War ended 150 years ago. (Spoiler alert: the Confederates lost.)

How can the American military "invade" American soil?

That's as stupid as saying someone's trespassing on their own lawn.

So your question makes no sane, rational sense whatsoever.
Uncle Pennybags
2015-05-06 13:23:53 UTC
The invasion of Texas is already well under way. The invasion however is coming from the South, not the North.
2015-05-08 19:02:26 UTC
If you were a 70 year old cyborg with a supermodel cyborg wife, like Norris is. You would probably be defensive also, like robocop. He's programmed that way.
?
2015-05-07 19:07:57 UTC
A state has its own sovereign rights and laws, the federal government was not designed to rule the states. America is the UNITED STATES.
2015-05-06 13:26:15 UTC
The US government is destroying our middle-class, so why wouldn't someone not think they're capable of doing the unthinkable.



"Obama’s Legacy: The Destruction of the Middle Class"

http://libertynews.com/2015/01/obamas-legacy-the-destruction-of-the-middle-class/#sthash.CuXmd87x.dpuf



"today, more than five years into the tepid recovery, labor-force participation remains at its lowest level since 1978 during the Carter years."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/04/obama-vs-reagan-big-government-socialism-proves-to-be-as-disastrous-as-expected/#ixzz3ZONLXx4i
GEORGE B
2015-05-09 07:43:21 UTC
The government doesn't have to invade Texas. It is already there.



http://militarybases.com/texas/

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Keep It Real
2015-05-07 08:22:42 UTC
It goes to show you just how much people are not trusting Obama or the Democrats. We had a small attack by ISIS followers and Obama hasn't said a word. Who would trust him?
Marduk
2015-05-06 13:35:11 UTC
Conservatives listen to Faux News and have little touch with reality. They are only been holding maneuvers for 25 years in TX. I think since they don't want them, Obama should close down the 17 military bases in TX to make them feel better:>)
2015-05-07 04:38:09 UTC
Think if it is right for Texas. Go right ahead. After all it is Obama were dealing with.
Jack
2015-05-09 17:17:16 UTC
Chuck Norris is from Oklahoma and lives in Oklahoma you jack ***.
Wage Slave
2015-05-06 13:25:50 UTC
It seems they have to invent problems now. Peddling lies such as this, and Obama canceling the 2016 election, etc.
Brian B
2015-05-06 13:15:53 UTC
The lunatics are running the Asylum on the right.
Grillparzer
2015-05-06 13:16:51 UTC
It's paranoia, the right wing of the American politic is driven by it.
2015-05-06 13:17:19 UTC
They are in Alex Jones world
Jerome
2015-05-07 11:14:22 UTC
it's all a bunch of bs no way the government would ever do that
njyogibear
2015-05-07 14:43:20 UTC
Hilarious but scary that apparently more than a few people in our society are so wacko.
great knight
2015-05-07 17:18:12 UTC
Are you aware that they have military bases to train on! And its against law to have military on streets? ANd that they labeled tx hostile! wake up!
2015-05-06 13:33:35 UTC
Texas is more trouble than its worth. Let it secede and be overrun by Mexican drug lords.
2015-05-06 13:24:57 UTC
Im a Texan and I dont want the US taking over our state. That country always thinks it can control us.
2015-05-06 13:16:45 UTC
The extreme right of the GOP has gone LOONY!
osama
2015-05-08 09:05:15 UTC
too many ******* in usa to invade the great lake of texass
2015-05-07 20:32:58 UTC
They suffer from the onset of dumbentia.
2015-05-07 10:37:27 UTC
I think all Texans should be put into FEMA camps
LAN
2015-05-06 13:26:11 UTC
I think it's sad how gullible you liberals are.
?
2015-05-06 13:40:42 UTC
I think they're all paranoid nutcases.


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